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document.write(" Date: 8-31-2010 \n"); document.write(" I came across this website in my frustration and i'm glad to know i'm not alone. I have been a long time poster and supporter of CL since nearly the dawn of the new york city version. However, recently someone has been attacking the services category I post in regularly, and I have not been able to post an ad in over a week. HTML? nope, plain text, yep, pictures, nope... doesn't matter. I'm not over posting, I repost one ad every 3 days, within the rules. But this isn't about the rules, someone is clearly trying to eliminate their competion by flagging everyone with some sort of auto flagging tool. I watched today as nearly 2/3rds of the posted ads by others, the majority of which violated none of the CL terms of use where flagged and removed in 5-10 minutes, tops. I even emailed several other fairly regular posters, since i've been on the forum for a long time I recognize the usual guys. They all are having similar problems. Many have attempted, including myself to contact CL but they clearly don't give a shit. The site is becoming useless to users who play by the rules, and they're essentially throwing the baby out with the bath. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Comment from Truth-or-Consequences.com:\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Yep. We agree 101%\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 7-26-2010 \n"); document.write(" CL is too lazy to moderate their own site so they have moronic patsies that have nothing better to do in life but sit on their 500 lb asses harrassing people and deleting their ads. CL could care less but they sucker idiots into doing their jobs for them. People that flag and delete have nothing better to do with their lowly existence than sit around and harrass people by deleting ads for no reason and then post bitter responses to people looking for help in the forums. I guess this is CLs motto. We allow people t o harrass our customers. Come visit our site so you too can be harrassed by children. CL gets free slave labor to do the job they refuse to. They sucker people into doing their work for them and these children fall for it.\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 7-25-2010 \n"); document.write(" Craigslist totally sucks! There are some fugly misfits who live on it and flag everything. They are turd losers who have nothing going on in their lives! "i have written funny Missed Connections ads and had them removed. There are some gay guys who do not want women posting on there and flag their posts. How they have this power is beyond me, they must have software to do that.\n"); document.write(" Now in order for me to post anything I must give them my phone number, oh yeah right! No damn way!! They are the worst site and people have been killed on there, ripped off you name it! But funny fake ads they remove.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Comment from Truth-or-Consequences.com: \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Yep. We agree.\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 7-19-2010 \n"); document.write(" I have been trying to place my business ads this last week. I have placed 4 ads all within 20 minutes of posting is flagged/deleted. I have been using craiglist for several years and never had a problem. Now I do, you see my competitors continually and have for years placed their business ads in FOR SALE RV, not in the category "required by craigslist" in "Services Auto". This is the place where I have always placed my ads in the services category and yet I am deleted. I emailed the CEO of craigslist to find out why this is happening when I have a legite business and am going by their posting policies and yet my business ads are deleted. Makes no sense. Of course I got no reply. Go to any city and you will find the same (Businesses placing ads in FOR SALE)\n"); document.write(" I placed an ad again today with only this:\n"); document.write(" mobile rv services with my phone number (heading RV Repair), well this time within 5 minutes I was deleted. So I am done. Not wasting my time in placing a legite ad that follows their policy and get deleted. If I ran my business like craiglist does I would be done. So I am very interested in starting such a business that allows for free classifieds but will NOT allow my FREE ad posters to delete or flag, this is what a hired staff is for, not your "free customers." An another thing, I would have staff to answer emails and customers concerns, for the customer of any business, even if they get a service for free has the right to have their voice heard. Why would mr craigslist start a business and not expect to be questioned about its practices, ethics and failing business?? Craiglist should have to answer to this, Perhaps this is a show for CNN, instead of watching all these "poltical nightmares" this country is forced to choose from!\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 6-5-2010 \n"); document.write(" Craigslist refuses to allow me to post this on their crappy website. They claim I needed to open an account. Then they wanted me to give them a phone number so they could start bothering me.I deleted their page from my bookmarks. I was afraid to click once more because they then might have started to ask for a key to my home. Craigslist is a losers website like ebay. And the worse thing is it is owne dby the scum ebay.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Comment from Truth-or-Consequences.com:\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" We don't feel that asking for basic information, or establishing an account, is unreasonable in order to use a free classified service. If we were running Craigslist, we'd ask for more documentation than that as another means of controlling spam and fraud. Make no mistake: We hate Craigslist passionately, but not for this.\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 5-14-2010 \n"); document.write(" Craigslist sucks, lets face it. There are so many problems with the service it isn't funny. And it's getting worse and worse over time. Many of the "fixes" instituted by Craigslist are causing most of the problems.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" In its infancy, it worked well, as did eBay, as the people using the Internet were Internet people - computer geeks who played by a set of unwritten rules. But as the Internet has become the network for the everyman, people, often unscrupulous people, have figured out ways to basically wreck all the fun.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" So you want to sell your old futon. You put it on Craigslist. You get e-mails from scam artists and maybe a serial killer comes to visit you. Fun, eh? But actual BUYERS? No, you don't get any of them.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" P.T. Barnum said it best - "never let the suckers in for free - people don't value that which they don't have to pay for". You want people to take something seriously, you have to CHARGE for it.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Craigslist has remained like a cult, fairly secretive in its operations, and also steadfastly refusing to take paid advertisements or charge user fees. How long they can keep up this "business model" is anyone's guess, however. You can't run a business like a religious cult.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" There are several features of Craigslist that are disturbing. First, since everything is free, anyone can post anything. And that often means that people who want to sell outright junk list it on Craigslist for a billion dollars. This ends up wasting your time, as you spend countless hours tracking down some clown to see his broken-down (fill in the blank) only to drive an hour out of your way to find out that whatever it is he is selling should be put in a dumpster.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" And if you have a legitimate item to sell, watch out, because if it is "flagged" by anyone, they remove it. And lately, people have been abusing the heck out of "flagging". Some folks have even written 'bots to flag the snot out of everything. And since Craigslist takes a "hands off" approach to flagging, if your posting is "flagged" it gets deleted.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" And then there is the parochial nature of Craigslist. Their mantra is "buy local". But often, the best deals might be found an hour or more away. But since you can only advertise locally, you can't reach those markets, and moreover, it is harder to search far-away markets.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" If you try to list an item on multiple Craigslist sites (for example, Syracuse, Ithaca, Rochester) the posts will be denied. Craigslist now has a feature that "finds" items in adjacent areas, but ONLY if there are not enough listings in your local area.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" There are services, like searchtempest, that will search all the Craigslists nationwide for an item. For some items, like vintage car parts or an old Airstream travel trailer, it is worthwhile to do a nationwide search. For some reason, Craigslist people think this is a horrible idea. "Buy Locally!" they chant, not realizing that if you want a carburator bracket for a 1954 Chevy pickup (and it's different than the '55 and '53) you might want to look in places other than Elmira New York and its environs.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" If you use SearchTempest or one of the other Craigslist aggragators, the system may lock you out, blocking your IP address on the grounds that you are searching too many sites at once.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Now, you might say, "Well, this is all very good, they are trying to police abuses of the system - by allowing flagging of items, they keep the system clean, and by blocking IP addresses of people searching too many sites, they prevent 'bots and spammers for accessing Craigslist."\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Oh, if only that were true! The reality is, the con artists are all over Craigslist and rarely, if ever, are their posts flagged. When you see a car for sale for less than half its book value, that is a tipoff. Then you e-mail the person, and they tell you a wild tale of how they are overseas and they will have the car shipped to you. Scam, plain and simple.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" And even Craigslist knows this. In the "Cars and Trucks" section, there is a highlighted heading that says "ALL OFFERS TO SHIP CARS ARE FRAUDULENT!" - so they know what is going on. But, the offers continue to plague Craigslist.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Meanwhile, my legitimate offer to sell a set of used car parts is "flagged" as "inappropriate" for the "Car parts for sale" section.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" The system simply DOESN'T WORK.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" I've wasted countless hours on Craigslist trying to find things. Either the people are DREAMERS trying to sell junk for top dollar, or they are impossible to get ahold of and won't tell you a time and place to come look at the item in question.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" P.T. Barnum had it right. When the SUCKERS don't PAY for something, they don't appreciate it. Craigslist has devolved into little more than a graffiti-covered bathroom wall. For a good time, call Suzie 555-1212.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Craigslist sucks. Scammers predominate, as they figure out the rules of the automated system and just skirt them. Or they just keep posting and re-posing over and over again. But Joe Everyman, trying to sell his lawnmower, gets flagged. The spammers are taking over Craigslist and then shutting out the individual.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Um, how many times have we seen that happen on the Internet? Remember NewsGroups? Simple, fast, fun, - FREE. Then they got slammed with SPAM and no one could use them anymore.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" The existence of Craigslist illustrates that there is a desperate need for a centralized place on the Internet to buy and sell your stuff. But the problems with Craigslist show that the "free" model simply doesn't work.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" The first person to come to market with a nationwide buy/sell classified system that either charges a nominal amount (to keep out the spammers and con artists) or uses paid adverts to fund a staff to monitor it (and keep out the spammers and con artists) will find a ready market.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" And Craigslist will be relegated to the trash heap of history.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" What a freaking waste of time!\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 5-10-2010 \n"); document.write(" Sue Daly of Brandon, Florida\n"); document.write(" tbj2618-nobybs@yahoo.com\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Are you people total morons or what? Craigslist is a PRIVATE business who has every right to make their own rules. The Attorney General couldnt do anything because CL did NOTHING illegal! DUH! Since when do you think it is your RIGHT to FORCE a private business to post a free ad for you? CL works by community moderation and that is clearly stated. If you are upset your ad got flagged, just ask for a refund. Oh that's right, your ad was FREE! LMAO!!! Just go somewhere else instead of whining like a bunch of fools. No one is forcing you to post ads on CL. Good Lord, whatever did you do before CL was launched???\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Comment from Truth-or-Consequences.com:\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Re the preceding diatribe: It always amazes us that folks will erupt into a frenzy about a topic without actually UNDERSTANDING the topic in question (see ignoramus, above). The ad this broad refers to WAS a PAID advertisement. DUH! Learn to READ, for God's sake, please learn to read before embarrassing yourself and your race. She further laments that no one should complain when they go to considerable trouble to plan, compose, and post an ad, only to have it flagged and removed ten minutes later because some Bay area moron was offended by the word "the". The other instance of CL not responding to their own Attorney General describes a situation in which a thief and fraudster in Washington state was advertising boats for sale and lying about certain aspects of them that couldn't be verified. He was finally sued (he lost), but he was also guilty of numerous CRIMES, and Craigslist wouldn't lift a single Goddamned pot-stained finger to help law enforcement file charges and get a conviction. We've seen it a hundred times: Craiglist OFTEN or USUALLY seems to side with the criminal element. Too bad the imbecile, above, can't funnel her outrage towards helping stop CRIME on CL, because CL itself doesn't seem capable or interested in taking charge themselves, as opposed to ranting wildly against those who try to stop it for her. My God there are some stupid fucking people in this world. Really. We're all bone-weary of it. READ.....before you spout. There used to be a routine on SNL in which Gilda Radner would pose as some crazy old lady who was invited to come onto the local news set to rail about some community injustice or whatever. She'd rag on for five minutes about how stupid someone or some policy was, then, one of the news anchors would lean over and quietly whisper in her ear that she had completely misunderstood the case she was ranting about. Gilda would sit back all prim and proper, smile, and quietly pronounce, "Never mind." Sue Daly (her real name? SURE it is) could take a lesson from poor old Gilda. Good freaking grief. UNDERSTAND what you're angry about BEFORE mouthing off like a raving nut-case. Sue and Nobama could both stand to learn this lesson. The bottom line here is this: CL has taken traffic from all other mainstream modes of advertising. Run an ad in any local paper and see -- you'll get virtually no results. Yet you'll get poor results on CL too, because CL is too Goddamned stupid and unprofessional to run their service even remotely correctly. It's like a bunch of Goddamned pot-heads are trying to run the place. And that makes life difficult for EVERYONE. We say to Craigslist: Run a useful business, or get the fuck out of the way and let someone else run a useful business. By GOD we're sick of imbeciles.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 5-1-2010 \n"); document.write(" Here's my ad that was flagged for no reason. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Date:2010-04-30 23:26:22\n"); document.write(" PostID:1718976945\n"); document.write(" Title:(musicians) Guitar Lessons Available - All Levels Welcome\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Professional guitarist available for lessons. Will teach all levels but prefer beginners and intermediate. I have a professional studio located in Santa Clara. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" I will teach you everything from the basics (chords, scales, rhythm) to more advanced techniques such as modes, arpeggios, theory, performance, songwriting etc. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Rates are $40 per hour. Rates are discounted if you purchase 4 weeks in advance. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Amps are provided as are guitars if you can't bring yours. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" I have been performing for over 21 years. I have had my music placed with MTV, Buel Motorcyles and more. I have performed with some of the top musicians in the world and want to transfer my love of playing guitar to you. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" It's never to late to learn to play guitar. So send me an email and tell me what you need.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Payments can be made via cash, check, m/c, visa am/ex or paypal.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 4-29-2010 \n"); document.write(" I think the worst part of it all is if you go to their so-called "help" forum to find out why you were flagged. You get harassed, called filthy names and get no real help at all. Every person that goes there looking for help just gets picked on by the majority of the "helpers".\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" COMMENT from Truth-or-consequences.com: \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" We absolutely agree. We've been through it. We'll never go through it again. We've never seen such a collection of dirty, ignorant little smart-asses. In real life, of course, they'd end up hospitalized or worse for treating people like that face to face. But they think they're anonymous, hiding behind the Internet veil. We proved only two months ago that a well-placed subpoena will lead you straight to an offender's apartment number. $204 to a sympathetic attorney is all it took. Simply file for an anti-harassment order (usually free and absurdly easy to get these days, and thanks to the left wing, almost anything qualifies now as "harassment") against "John Doe" (since you don't yet know their name). Once you're granted the order, you have subpoena authority. To use it, merely pay an attorney to subpoena the server farm (the ISP) for their records. Drill down through the data and you'll end up with the actual home address of the smart ass. It takes about three weeks from start to finish, and if you hate mouthy punks half as much as we do, it's well worth the time. If the offender uses a proxy or anonymous remailer, you merely have to get an additional subpoena for each one. It's way fun, incredibly productive, and we highly recommend it.\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 4-27-2010 \n"); document.write(" NOTICE: The following post includes and reflects the author's opinions, hunches and/or suspicions, and has not been checked or verified for factual accuracy; readers of ALL Internet material must use proper research methodology to verify to their satisfaction the veracity of ANY statement made by ANYONE about ANY topic at ANY time: \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Interesting - I usually post articles written on my blog. I will usually post a couple of paragraphs, and leave it up to the invidividual to continue reading, or not.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" I post clearly that the link will take you to my site (blog)...where I do not have any type of adversting allowed. I do not blog for money, and my site is an ad free, donation free site.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" I am known to post manually - I type about 135wpm, and can post several articles within the craigslist community (strictly under rants/raves). I only post articles regarding non violence, non racism, unity, oneness, spirituality..etc...\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" I always get these flagged, usually moments after I have posted them. But what is odd/strange is that I was actually contacted by a Craigslist rep via email, asking if I wanted to pay to keep my post from being flagged! I wish I'd kept a copy of the email...but obviously they saw that I was posting alot, and wanted to strong arm me into paying for a free service. I responded with a not so kind response....\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Therefore, Craigslist flags my posts from internally. They also have reduced the amount of posts I can do within a 10 minute period. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" I can see how they thought I was a bot...because the post were showing up in multiple areas, minutes after the first post...(i can't help it if I type fast)...and know how to cut and paste...\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Also, there is software out there that allows people to flag mutltiple people without regard to the actual post.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Craigslist has it's own agenda, which is clearly visible if you just scroll the nasty vulgarities that CL allows....racism, hate speech, violence, and continue support for the government causing separation.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Craigslist has become a very dangerous nasty vulgar site that speads hate ....\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Craigslist is a place to get drugs, prostitution, and to spread hate. Sound very American....\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" COMMENT from Truth-or-consequences.com:\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" It is a FACT that your ads can be flagged off even if you pay for them. This happened to us in the Help Wanted section with a plain-jane ad for general office help. We threatened to sue CL for our $25 and they eventually refunded. Stop for a moment and realize where this outfit (CL) slithers forth from: San Francisco. Given that knowledge, no wacky stunt they could ever pull should surprise anyone.\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 4-25-2010 \n"); document.write(" I attempted to advertize a Classic Fender Amplifier and a Recording Studio.\n"); document.write(" They were both flagged and removed. I think it is nincompoops who have that \n"); document.write(" flag box at their disposal to screw us out of any chance to do any business\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 3-25-2010 \n"); document.write(" I suspect what is happening is that people are so desperate to sell things that they are trying to reduce the sellers pool by flagging similar posts.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" For example, if you are selling a car stereo, and there are 500 other people also selling a car stereo aswell, and there are 250 buyers for car stereos, you have a supply and demand problem. You have alot of supply, and few buyers. Not only is there alot of competition, so you have to sell for less, but with many sellers, your less likely to make a sale. So, if you go flag 400 ads of those other people selling car stereos, you can demand a higher price, and have a much greater pool of buyers. Now there is 100 people selling car stereos, but still 250 buyers.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" The same philosophy is used by walmart. Why do you think they sell 'everything' for next to nothing prices? So they can drive their competition out of business. Then 'officially' they can claim to the FTC, that they are just trying to bring a better value to their customers. There are the same number of shoppers, but fewer places to shop at, and the greater number of things you sell, the more customers will start shopping at your store when the competition closes. As you continue to put your competition out of business, your customers & sales increase exponentially. This formula has been used for a long time, and is one of the reasons why the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer. Dont even get me started on 'Free Trade', and 'offshore manufacturing', I would hit the character limit on this comment form.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" I have only had one post flagged on CL, when I was trying to sell my truck, I never understood why at the time. I also had a good bit of spam from the truck ad, and from a post I replied to for a rental property. BTW BEWARE the Andrea [redacted] ads. You should warn people about those on your page, they are a SCAM.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Anyway, great page, keep up the good work. So sad I dont live near seattle, I would gladly work for $11-$55 hr and I have alot of skills :)\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 3-11-2010 \n"); document.write(" Lately eBay has been aggressively trying to regain business from sellers that have given up on eBay and their over-priced fees. My suspicion has been for the past few months that anything that eBay use to have posted on their site is picked up by a program and automatically entered for flagging by CL's automated flagger. It a multi-billion dollar corperation we're talking about here (eBay) and it wouldn't surprise me if eBay has such a simple program scanning all CL categories nailing anyone trying to sell their stuff that was previously sold on eBay as copywrite infringement or something along those lines. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" What I draft and post on eBay belongs to ME! What I wish to now sell on Craigslist is still mine as well as the posting that I authored and posted. They seem to think they own the photos and the text of any listing that was previously on eBay. How foolish of them, especially if we're able successfully get the reporting IP addresses of those that flagged our postings as against the Craigslist's Terms of Use/Service.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" CL needs to either hire real people to deal with the "flaggings" personally or they will fail only because their primary competition that charges for the same services which CL offers for free will then swoop in and force us to post on eBay. Well eBay and KMA because I'm not paying them 15% of my selling price when I don't even have a profit margin that large let alone to spare giving eBay 15% fees. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" It is easier to just throw good junk into the garbage than to bother giving it away on CL or posting it on eBay. Everyone loses but I still get rid of the stuff - so I guess I'm the winner in the long run. Should have just tossed it out 2 weeks ago like I wanted to and ignored the wife's request to find someone that could use it.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" REPLY from Truth-or-Consequences.com:\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Incredibly interesting post. We put eBay in the same light as CL and have for many years. All one need do is interact with eBay a few times to see what we mean. We'd be surprised by NOTHING eBay might do. We hope the author of this one follows through. Remember that all you must do to get subpoena authority is file against a company in small claims court. Once you have subpoena authority you can open up all KINDS of filthy laundry if it exists. We've used this tach in the past to get the data we needed to bring crooks down. We just had a friend sell a few items for us on eBay (because we refuse to have an eBay account ourselves), and we were absolutely stunned at the fees. Ebay is really not worth using anymore. We can't get our ads to stay up long enough on CL to be effective, so from now on we'll just take our stuff to the dump.\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 12-19-2009 \n"); document.write(" Last year I had a drastic change in employment. I didn't welcome it with open arms, but if I want food and gas I have to do it. This lead to my best buddy Deoggie (my boxer) to be left in a cage in the garage up to 14 hours a day. I made effort to go home and let him out a couple times a day, but in the end I knew what I had to do.\n"); document.write(" Well, I spend 3 feverish weeks trying to find a good home for him using craigslist. My ads wouldn't last 5 minutes. I got threatening emails, death threats, and all manner of insulting emails and phone calls from people telling me what a useless waste of plasma I was and that I should be the one put down for being irresponsible.\n"); document.write(" Well thanks a-holes. Rather than send my buddy to the shelter, I put him down. I cried for 2 days. But it was quick... and a much better way to end up than in the shelter.\n"); document.write(" I know this story won't sit well with most people, it doesn't for me either. But I know what humane is. I'd rather take a bullet than end up in the shelter only to be needled to death 4 weeks later after being torn to shreds by mean animals I’m forced to share cage space with.\n"); document.write(" Anyway, thanks to all you jackwad flaggers. I hope he haunts you. I never claimed the outcome was best for my buddy, but life deals crap sometimes and we have to adjust. You bastards thought the right course of action was to quit my job and stay home with the dog. What the hell?\n"); document.write(" Anyway, I dream of the day when a freak electrical fire burns Craig’s database and application servers to the unrecoverable ground. Since when can a few people out of a hundred decide what is acceptable and what is not? Craigslist today offers nothing more than a haven for has-been idiots and an extension of power to those most irresponsible among us. They do it for the trip. They do it because they think they know what is best and damn the 98% who disagree with them.\n"); document.write(" Craigslist is a private entity. It’s owner can make any rule it wants about allowable content, fair or not. I will abide since It’s not my website. However, make it known that the service is completely useless… unless all you really want is spam in your inbox.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Reply from Truth-or-Consequences.com: \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Unfortunately, this fits with just about every experience we've had with these imbeciles as well. And it perfectly mirrors our own sentiments. For us, Craigslist is far more trouble than it's worth and we barely use it at all anymore. The lunatic parasites have actually cut their own throats. Good for them.\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 11-18-2009 \n"); document.write(" I HATE CRAIGSLIST FLAGGER!!!!\n"); document.write(" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Tell me something. Why is it that most of the people in the relationship section feel the need to fucking flag my ad when there's no flaggable content!?!?!\n"); document.write(" Do you have that little going for you that you have to screw-up someone else' day?\n"); document.write(" What kind of troll sits around FLAGGING every single post I put up!?!\n"); document.write(" I hope that yer genitals swell-up and explode.\n"); document.write(" I hope that the next person you manage to lure back to yer cave, runs and screams with fear of the sight of what you keep under your clothes. Then tells the village to get their torches and pitch-forks for a real monster hunt.\n"); document.write(" I hope stub your toe every hour, ON THE HOUR, for an entire month. And then it falls off.\n"); document.write(" I hope that a man dressed up as Santa take a shit in your chimney, infront of your front door, front seat of your car, or anywhere else that it might that could mess you up.\n"); document.write(" I hope that the next time you have a craving for something, its a pain in the ass to get there, and when you go to get it, all shipments EVERYWHERE have been recalled.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Whoever you are, your an asshole. And its people like you that Jay and Silent Bob were making reference to in J&SB Strike Back. You're a douche even to the douchi-est of douches.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Reply from Truth-or-Consequences.com:\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" You've expressed our own opinions succinctly. Thanks!\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 11-2-2009 \n"); document.write(" THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! I am SOOO glad for this website. YES, I am ALL for an alternative website. "Shitterslist" needs to be shut down for good! We need to do this asap. THEY SUCK!! There are literally NO rights to freedom of speech on that site. If the readers or the administratiors don't like what you have to say (oh boo hoo) watch how fast you will get flagged and then can't post unless you give a phone number or more information. That is a bunch of CRAP! I say, 'get rid of them'! Power to you!\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 10-21-2009 \n"); document.write(" To all of you that would like to support a craigslist alternative, drop me a line at admin@vintage-vehicles.com. If we can get enough people that will support another site, setup and organized like CL, but founded in sound principals and conduct, then I can set that up in a few days and we can all begin to promote it. There needs to be another viable, responsible, accountable source for this kind of information. It seems to me that the people posting here are decent regular folks that need somewhere to conduct business and sell unwanted merchandise. I am one of them. If you email me I will respond\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 10-21-2009 \n"); document.write(" I try posting legitimate ads for sales hunters. This is a program that my company has used successfully and legitimately for years. This is NOT a JOB offer and would not be posted in employment ads. We are NOT offering employment. we are looking for 1099 self employed people to prospect for leads and we pay 6-8 % of the TOTAL sale from the lead when it closes. I DO NOT want dozens of idiots running around, just a few smart capable people who want to make a decent income from this. The the "craigslist cops", those self annointed no it all dipshits start flagging ads that they know nothing about and respond to posts in the self-employment forums as dishonest and a scam. I have had it with these people and there holier than tho atitudes.\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 10-17-2009 \n"); document.write(" I cant stand craigslist, when it first came out I used it for my rentals, my office still uses it for rentals but the quality of residents from this site has dropped tremendously. I may as well stand on the corner and pick up tenants. Also I have posted for my pet on here and because she is a pit bull someone wants to keep flagging it. I even put in the ad that she has been spayed so she wont go for breeding, some person thinks they are saving the world or something and flags. My dog deserves a good home, I am re-homing her only cause I am working 3 jobs, I dont have time to take her out as she should be..... Craigslist really SUCKS\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 10-9-2009 \n"); document.write(" This message was flagged off within three minutes, posted in "Pets". We've tried to repost numerous times: same thing each time. This service is not only worth less than zero, it's a liability and an agravation. Stay away from Craigslist:\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" I've been cat-less for about 20 years now. My GF has ferrets, who utterly ignore cats. It's time for a kitten in my life. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" My pets are spoiled to the point of ludicrousness -- just ask our vet (yes, you may actually ask our vet). I only have two requirements: Short hair, and male. Prefer just-weaned (not over 10 weeks). Color doesn't matter. I will want to spend time \n"); document.write(" with the kitten before I take it. At least 30 minutes, maybe more. Please understand that if I don't find a connection, I won't take it. I hate the traffic in this region so I won't drive far from Ballard. I'll wait for one close to me. I'm not in a great hurry, but I am "ready". I probably would never pay for a kitten, but I suppose there could be an exception for some reason that's unknown to me at this moment. This feline will be an indoor cat with lots of room to run and harass the \n"); document.write(" ferrets. It will ALWAYS have its shots on time and will always have access to the best veterinary care. It will have the freedom to BE whoever it IS. It'll have a fun and honorable life. I work from home, so it will never be lonely. Respond \n"); document.write(" with pictures and general location, please, and if possible, describe the personalities of the parents. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" This posting has been flagged for removal\n"); document.write(" (The title on the listings page will be removed in just a few minutes.)\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 9-30-2009 \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" NOTICE: The following post includes and reflects the author's opinions, hunches and/or suspicions, and has not been checked or verified for factual accuracy; readers of ALL Internet material must use proper research methodology to verify to their satisfaction the veracity of ANY statement made by ANYONE about ANY topic at ANY time: \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" In Craigslist Denver, we have been trying to advertise our business. We DO NOT post in Auto Parts for Sales, we post in services offered. About once a week, it's a fight with craigslist because I post in Services Offered, and it's removed within 5 minutes.\n"); document.write(" Our add is:\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Do you want to make your Jeep model vehicle stand out from the rest? Have you seen other Jeeps driving around town and say, WOW I wish my Jeep had that on it? Have you ever contacted on the BIG guys to ask questions about building your Jeep up only to be treated like your from another planet? At Get Over It Custom 4x4 we believe in a few simple things.... Keep it simple. There is no such thing as a stupid question. Ensure that OUR customer's needs are handling with 150% customer service. Treat everyone fair and like family (well, better than family). \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Get Over It Custom 4x4 we offer service and repair for all Jeep Vehicles. We will sit down with you and help YOU decide what is best for you and your ride. If you want a daily driver that can do minor to moderate off roading, we can help. If you want your ride to be a major rock crawler, we can help with that as well. You tell us what your needs are, and we will help you come up with a plan, and do all the shopping for you. Our staff provides over 30 years of experience building and maintaining off road vehicles. Plus, we have relationships with nation wide retailers so we can get the best deals and pass the savings on to you. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" An example of some of the services we offer are: \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" * Customization of your ride \n"); document.write(" * Minor mechanical repairs \n"); document.write(" * Lift Kit Installs \n"); document.write(" * Body Armor \n"); document.write(" * Bumper installs \n"); document.write(" * Roll Cage Options \n"); document.write(" * Engine and Fuel increasing items, such as exhausts, air systems and body spacers \n"); document.write(" And much more \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" While the other guys will sell you parts, we will EXPLAIN the parts, and why you need them. They provide lots of BS. We Provide BSS - Bigger Rocks, Steeper Climbs and Stronger Ride. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Call us today to schedule an appointment. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Send us an email with what you are looking for and when to reach you: info@getoveritcustom4x4.com \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Visit us on the web at http://www.getoveritcustom4x4.com \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" What a crock. Sad part is we don't get any business from Craiglist. The only thing we do get from them is spammer emails\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 9-29-2009 \n"); document.write(" NOTICE: The following post includes and reflects the author's opinions, hunches and/or suspicions, and has not been checked or verified for factual accuracy; readers of ALL Internet material must use proper research methodology to verify to their satisfaction the veracity of ANY statement made by ANYONE about ANY topic at ANY time: \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" My ad for a used washing machine was flagged. Everything I did from my IP was flagged, from my website hosting the photos of basically "garage sale" items. My interested buyers were even ticked off because a lady wanted the washing machine, went back to see pic and it was deleted. Luckily she had written down my number. Even buyers are mad!\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" A guy selling a coffee table was flagged. C'mon? There's competition for crappy household items? I know how the flaggers work, I've beaten them at their game but it takes time on my part to keep changing urls and IP's. Craigslist sucks *ss and I see no reason for them to enjoy the popularity they do. The majority of sellers and even buyers are low life crack heads with exception of people in this economy needing cheap stuff like my old but good washing machine. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" I'm starting 2 new sites, zoelist.com and craigslistnoflag.com for people in my community to post. I build sites anyhow, and my own colleagues and buyers said "if you build it - we will come" LOL So I'm working on it. I love your site and thank you for posting what a sloppy piece of crap Craigslist really is.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Reply from Truth-or-Consequences.com:\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" You are absolutely welcome.\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 9-28-2009 \n"); document.write(" NOTICE: The following post includes and reflects the author's opinions, hunches and/or suspicions, and has not been checked or verified for factual accuracy; readers of ALL Internet material must use proper research methodology to verify to their satisfaction the veracity of ANY statement made by ANYONE about ANY topic at ANY time: \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Craigslist is not monitored, nor policed. There is far more wrong with it than meets the eye. Far more than ... all of US being screwed in the end by getting flagged for no reason. (Who gave the other "customers" the right to flag??? Stupid!)\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Here's the bigger picture...\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Craigslist is a safe house for illegal activity:\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" -Drug deals\n"); document.write(" -Prostitution\n"); document.write(" -Illegal pornographic content\n"); document.write(" -Pornographers (amateur and pro alike) taking advantage of hopeful "models"\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Some cases just this past month alone:\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" -Teacher arrested for using CL as a means to get cocaine, and meet underage teens for sex.\n"); document.write(" -A woman in Raleigh, NC has been selling stolen goods out of her van. If she smells a rat, she takes off. A few times she's taken off with money before even giving the buyer the goods!\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" (There's plenty more, but it's not my job to list it all.)\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Sure, some of these assholes are caught, but many if not most are not caught. Who's the engine for these criminals? CRAIGSLIST.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" I don't care WHAT disclosure Craig and his monkeys have saying they aren't liable. I can't put a sign up at my job that says, "No responsible for damaged heads" and then slam people in the head as they walk by with random solid objects. I'd still get time for assault. ...even if my coworkers were the ones doing it while I just watched.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" The puppeteer is to blame here, not the puppets. I do believe CL is well overdue for a good team of hackers to toy with.\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Y'all sit back and make viruses and enjoy hacking computers and servers for fun. Take out CL and do us all a favor!\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" REPLY from Truth-or-Consequences.com:\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" We tend to agree with most of the above. Where the poster went wrong is here: Without flagging, Craigslist would be a complete and total jumble of spam and nonsense. It's barely usable now due to that, but it would be a thousand times worse if it was allowed to go unweeded. Beyond that, Craigslist must have flagging to allow themselves a high degree of plausible deniability. The law generally states that if a website monitors or censors it's content, it is responsible for that content. If, on the other hand, a website allows public posting without any active censorship by the webmaster(s), the website is NOT responsible for its content. We've chosen to monitor the content of this comment area. But we can do that, because it's small and manageable. Craigslist could not POSSIBLY directly monitor its content from one central location, nor could it ever afford to do so. Craigslist must allow flagging to be able to maintain its site. The problem lies in STUPID flagging. Much of the bad, unwanted and/or downright illegal content is allowed to remain posted, while much of the legitimate content gets flagged off. This is because Americans are largely imbeciles. They're also too-often petty, problematic, unprofessional, unwise, brain-damaged, drunk, drugged-out fools. Consequently, they can't figure out this simple task called flagging. They do it badly, if they do it at all. You might conclude from this that the problem with Craigslist lies mostly with its users. It does not. They're only part of the problem. The bulk of the problem lies with Craigslist and those who founded it, and who maintain it today. Craigslist could EASILY support its own business by making it far more clear, just what's allowed in various categories, and what's not. A simple set of CLEAR guidelines at the top of each category would do it. How long would it take to set that up? About eleven minutes, yet Craigslist is simply too freaking lazy/stupid/incompetent/clueless to effect that, so what should be flagged or retained remains largely a mystery. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" The other HUGE problem is Craiglist's clear and obvious penchant for sleaze. The sex categories, casual encounters, adult services and the like -- none of them has any business whatsoever in a classified enterprize that struggles for credibility. These categories attract the bottom-feeders like feces attract flies. Remove the bait and lose 75% of Craigslist's stink. There are people who are not pedophiles, perverts, sex maniacs, etc., but are hard working folks who want to buy and sell legitimate items, find jobs, hire people, socialize, etc.. All of the Craigslist sleaze categories serve only to detract from the service's credibility. The people who use and frequent those areas contribute next to nothing to the COMMERCE aspect of Craigslist. Commerce is, after all, the thing that allows Craigslist to BE. Commerce produces revenue, and revenue pays for servers and staff. Craigslist, it would appear, would far rather cater to the sleaze mentality; despite the fact that they not only contribute nearly nothing, they are in reality a drag on the service's resources and credibility. No mainstream business wants to advertise their wares, their job openings, or anything else, on a sleazy, ugly, poorly-run "service" which so prominently and blatantly screams "sleazy sex, right here, come and get it". People who WORK and PRODUCE simply don't want to be around that crap. But Craigslist is located, after all, in San Fransisco, the veritable Mecca of Raunch, so what else would one expect from their management and staff. \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Craigslist laments the spammers. So......SOLVE THE PROBLEM! Charge $1.00 a year to open and hold an account. The credit card processors would take ninety nine cents of that. So what? It would give Craigslist CONTROL of their own business! When a $1 member screws up, CL can DELETE THEIR ACCOUNT! The spammers would be instantly accountable and stopped. They'd have no choice but to open another account to keep posting. If they were spamming CL a hundred times a day (some are spamming thousands of times per day), they'd go quickly broke and CL would be well rid of them. It ain't rocket science for God's sake. CL won't do this, nor will they take any other intelligent steps to correct the problems because, after all, they ain't the brightest bulbs in the string. They just simply are not. They'll screw around and screw around, moaning and wringing their hands, because that's what people from San Fransisco DO, just like they're doing now, until someone comes in a beats them at their own game, despite CL's headstart on critical mass. We say, "It can't happen soon enough." Problem solved. \n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 9-14-2009 \n"); document.write(" NOTICE: The following post includes and reflects the author's opinions, hunches and/or suspicions, and has not been checked or verified for factual accuracy; readers of ALL Internet material must use proper research methodology to verify to their satisfaction the veracity of ANY statement made by ANYONE about ANY topic at ANY time:\n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" \n"); document.write(" Craigslist is getting sued by a real estate company in corpus christi because one corrupt company uses "wardriving" to wrongly flag and remove all competitors ads forcing all out of town business to just call them. What they have managed to do is monopolize most rental business by running everybody else off. Perry Heston ad Jefferson Cowling w/ First Call Properties vrsus defendants Mario and Melissa Gomez dba Triple A Apartment Locating in Nueces County. This organized crime has been going on for 5 years. I hope they get their pants sued off. Craigslist refused to grant protected accounts to the plaintiffs and/or ban crimial behavior stating that they are merely a bulletin. Yet what's the point in having any terms of use if nobody will ever enforce them. Craigslist sucks \n"); document.write(" | \n");
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document.write(" Date: 9-4-2009 \n"); document.write(" Craigslist keeps removing my ads minutes after I post them. I so want to start a site where there is no flagging and removing unless there is good reason to. Craigslist sucks big time.\n"); document.write(" | \n");
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